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D Majors
6/2/2024 08:41:27 pm
Brigham Young taught in General Conference that if the Church ever abandoned Polygamy, it would lose its Priesthood and fall. He said, “Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 3, p. 266). Also, “The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy,” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p. 269).
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Tim Merrill
6/4/2024 02:24:08 pm
Thanks D, for that quote from Brigham Young, and showing how polygamy casts its shadow into the Twentieth Century, it's epic! Isn't it fascinating the way our theologies have a way of evolving and contradicting each other? The tragic part is that we (and our parents) make real-life decisions based on these beliefs, and if our beliefs are predicated on faulty (sandy) foundations, we'll achieve suboptimal results. Tim
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Ben
6/4/2024 04:42:53 pm
That point you made, about making real-life decisions based on the "incorrect traditions of our fathers. . ." That's something I ponder everyday, specifically what decisions am I still making based on beliefs I haven't yet identified as incorrect? How do my ingrained neural pathways based on concepts I've already released still weigh me down? If we are all merely humans destined to fall short in many ways, perhaps its not the end of the world to be locked into such a loop; just like everyone else. But. . ."sub-optimal results". . . that's the thing that motivates me to keep pondering, keep looking, keep listening, keep an open mind. What are the possibilities once we remove the stumbling blocks; blocks once thought to be foundations? How do we discover such blocks are not actually foundational, when to even question safe-space narratives spells certain alienation from our painstakingly constructed spheres of comfort and support? Just like any microbiologist might tell you I suppose, being comfortable, seeking safe-spaces, not engaging in the struggle for truth - for the sake of comfort - is the most efficient way to experience entropy. Maybe that will be desirable one day, but not yet. What's that old saying, about how Lamborghini doesn't bother advertising since those who are able to purchase a lambo don't spend their time watching TV or social media. . .Maybe the only way we find the lambo (truth) is to not be dwelling in a used car lot (incorrect traditions of our fathers).
Tim Merrill
6/5/2024 01:57:30 pm
Ben: another terrific analogy with the Lamborghini, the idea that truth doesn't need marketing is something I'll ponder. Whereas the non-truth, the falsehood -- those are the things that need good advertising to sell.
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Ben
6/6/2024 01:13:44 pm
"I'm developing the notion that all of our systems and institutions and beliefs, our sciences and histories, ad infinitum, are ultimately attempts to derive meaning from the life we find ourselves in." This notion is something I've been pondering this last year as well. Studying history, specifically as it relates to the stories we read in the average fundamentalist 21st century bible, it appears this notion of yours is all the rage, though we still affectionately call it "religion". I've found myself divesting emotion from elements of religion I used to call "sacred". Through scholarship I've found that many of those "sacred" things are not actually of a divine nature, but demonstrably of men - much like polygamy or priesthood bans etc. Reflecting on the religious creations of men that are nevertheless claimed as divine and then eagerly embraced due to our human nature to seek meaning (especially if it points towards something esoteric) I am constantly forced to wonder what divinity actually looks like. If we seek a God that is not portrayed - at least accurately - in the institutions men build and then proceed to call divine in their attempt at defining meaning, then I feel we owe it to the actual God and to ourselves to sift the lies from the truths, even if that means putting our sacred cows under the microscope. To do otherwise - to accept safer/safe-ish man-made narratives while ignoring actual evidence - would seem to echo to the words we might then one day hear from the a God: 'Depart from me, ye never knew me'.
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Ruth
6/9/2024 08:45:37 pm
39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
Clark Burt
6/14/2024 02:04:49 am
Now you know why I teach nothing but repentance and rely only on the word of God. One thing I will say, however, is the Adam & Eve, Abraham & Sarah, Isaac and Rebecca and Jacob and Rachel are love stories, romantic love stories. And I love love stories. See
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Eben
6/26/2024 10:16:40 am
Clark, are there more women than men in the world?
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